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Inspired by an essay I'm currently writing, I've decided to compile a list of what I consider to be the most ambiguously gay characters within the Disney animated canon (and one Pixar example for fun). Because as prudish and conservative as Disney is, there is a TON of ho yay contained within these films. Let's get started, shall we?

10. Flower from Bambi

"He can call me a flower if he wants to. I don't mind."

Now, before anyone says "Oh, but he got married at the end!", is anyone familiar with the concept of a beard?… Flower is about as straight as a slinky, my friends. His name is FLOWER, for God's sake. Not to mention the gender confusion; up until he becomes an adult, you wouldn't be faulted for thinking he's a girl. When he first appears, he's practically blushing in Bambi's presence and he just about keels over when Bambi calls him pretty. Oh hell, who am I kidding, when he first appears, he's nose to nose with Bambi, which I think pop culture has pretty well established as being animal code for a kiss, right up there with licking your partner's cheek. Oh, and he named his freaking kid after Bambi. Someone had a forbidden crush going on, if you catch my drift. Not just because of the species barrier, but because Bambi's a freaking prince. No wonder he married the first skunk chick he lays eyes on. Flower would have been higher on the list had it not been for his lack of screen time, but considering he's from the earliest film on this list, I think that's still an achievement.

9. Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective

"You followed me, I followed you, we were like each others shadows for a while..."

Ahhh, foe yay. It is like a sweet, sweet wine to me. :3 Ratigan's cultured and theatrical manner just screams of camp, to say nothing of his angry sexual tension with Basil. I don't have as much to say about Ratigan as I did about Flower because I think his ambiguous gayness speaks for itself (seriously, listen to "Goodbye So Soon" and tell me it's not a love song), but I'll just say this: his goal in the film is to overthrow and replace the Queen. OH, THE MYRIAD OF WAYS WE CAN INTERPRET THAT.

8. Cogsworth and Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast

"Well, there's the usual things: Flowers, chocolates, promises you don't intend to keep..."

Once again, I hear the dissent from readers who point out Lumiere's relationship with Fifi/Babette/Whatever the hell her name is. Well, if I may quote Legally Blonde the Musical, "Depending on the time of day the French go either way". Yeah, essentially what I'm saying is that I think Lumiere is a flexible kind of guy as far as sexuality goes. Cogsworth on the other hand? Totally gay. Much like Ratigan, he gives off a very camp vibe. Being voiced by a gay actor definitely helps give that impression, but add into the equation his married couple-esque bantering with Lumiere and the fact that the two are nigh on inseparable and you see where I'm coming from. Plus, though it's a rather small thing, I always raise an eyebrow during the 'healing' scene when Lumiere actually clings to Cogsworth as they back away from the Beast's rage. Almost like he's saying "Protect me, honey!" What? Reading too deeply into things? What makes you say that?

7. Baloo and Bagheera from The Jungle Book

"You wouldn't marry a panther, would you?"

This is the third highly cultured British character in a row. I'm sensing a pattern. Anyhoo, these two are on the list primarily because they spend the entire film acting as parents to a young human, with Bagheera taking on the logical and protective motherly role and Baloo being the fun and irresponsible father who becomes considerably more mature and responsible when he starts to think of Mowgli as his child. Much like Lumiere and Cogsworth, these two are frequently engaged in married couple banter. They clearly knew each other quite well prior to the Mowgli adventure, and it's clear that they stick together after it's over. Not to mention the sequence where the above quote comes from. After all, what's Baloo's answer to that question? "Come to think of it, no panther ever asked me!" complete with nudge nudge, wink wink. Also, I would like to point out that, in some adaptations of The Jungle Book, Bagheera is portrayed as female. That really has nothing to do with my point, but I just find it incredibly amusing.

6. Francis and Slim from A Bug's Life

"So, being a ladybug automatically makes me a girl!"

Here's the Pixar example I mentioned earlier. Francis' character arc in the film is directly tied to his gender identity. Being a ladybug, he is constantly mistaken for female, and perhaps to compensate, he has an extremely short temper and a gruff personality. But under the influence on the little girl ants he takes under his wing, he starts to reveal the softer side of his personality. The whole situation to me screams of "just because I'm gay doesn't mean I'm a sissy". And yes, I legitimately do think that Francis and Slim were a couple in the film. Have I mentioned that I'm insane? I'm pretty sure I have. But seriously, watch the film again and tell me you don't see it.

5. Kuzco from The Emperor's New Groove

"Hate your hair, not likely, yikes, yikes yikes, and...let me guess, you have a great personality."

To quote my brother, "No heterosexual man would dismiss a bunch of beautiful women by nitpicking their hair." Kuzco seriously talks like one of those sassy gay guys they get to be fashion consultants on makeover shows. Also, he dresses in drag in the sequel and looks very comfortable doing so. I think this pretty much speaks for itself. xD

4. Radcliffe and Wiggins from Pocahontas

"My rivals back home, it's not that I'm bitter, but think how they'll squirm when they see how I glitter!"

Two words, folks: Gift baskets. Wiggins is so gay that I honestly expect rainbows to fly out of his mouth when he speaks. Radcliffe is not as obvious, but he definitely gives off a very foppish air. And really, watch their interactions; you can't tell me these two weren't fucking in the tents while the other men were digging. And of course, we once again have David Ogden Steirs voicing Radcliffe, which adds a lot to the foppish qualities. You know, it just occurred to me that Steirs wasn't officially out of the closet when he recorded these roles. If he had been, I wonder if they would have been portrayed any different? Honestly, I think it would have made it even more obvious.

3. Timon and Pumbaa from The Lion King

"What do you want me to do? Dress in drag and do the hula?"

Once again, we have a gay actor (Nathan Lane) playing an ambiguously gay character, and once again, we have the adopted parents angle. Now, I'd like to point out that the whole 'Timon and Pumbaa are Simba's surrogate parents' thing is played far more obviously in The Lion King 1 1/2; in the first film, it's played more as a friendship. 1 1/2 also is far more obvious in playing on Timon's queerness; he's the odd one out amongst the meerkats, and he only finds happiness when he meets Pumbaa. These two may not do as much of the married couple bantering as some of the others on this list, but they still give off the vibe of being a long-time happy couple. The Lion King's expanded universe has shown on numerous occasions that Timon and Pumbaa need each other and cannot be happy when they are apart, and hey, that's pretty much the point where heterosexual life partners bleeds into ho yay, right? 8D

2. Hugo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame

"The city of lovers is glowing this evening. True, that's because it's on fire, but still there's l'amour."

You remember when I said Disney has never had any openly gay characters? Well, Hugo is so close he might as well be covered in rainbow graffiti. He spends a good portion of the movie lusting after Djali, a male goat. I swear to God, the only reason this squeaked past the censors is because Hugo is a rock. Now, I've heard some people make the argument that Djali might be a female goat; however, he is explicitly referred to as male by Esmerelda at one point, and honestly guys, I think she'd be able to tell the difference. As for whether Hugo can tell the difference, consider the time that passes between the first movie and its sequel. If Hugo had been unaware of Djali's true gender, someone would have clued him in by the time the sequel takes place. And yet, by the sequel, he seems to have stepped up in his flirtations and, hell, Djali even reciprocates in the end! ....You know, I just realized that it's three in the morning and I'm writing about the sexuality of a fucking rock. Anyone know where I can purchase a life?

1. Jumba and Pleakley from Lilo and Stitch

"You're just jealous cause I'm pretty!"

My. Frigging. God. I could write a fucking BOOK on how gay these two are. Pleakley's cross-dressing, the fact that they masquerade as husband and wife even when there's no need to, the fact that they almost got married in an episode of the series and they both seemed pleased as punch about it. Since it would take me forever to list every single piece of evidence that these two are as gay as a bag of Skittles, I direct you instead to a marvelous essay written by WeyrdChic:… Enjoy!

So, there's my list. And hey, if you guys can think of more, I'd love to hear your opinions! For now, I'm going to bed.
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FireNationPhoenix Featured By Owner 20 hours ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Hugo is definitely gay
pinkiecakekawaii Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2015
aren't they any asexuals in disney? 
thedarklordkeisha Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2015
Sure, probably. Hell, unless they actively show sexual interest in another character, you could conceivably consider any Disney character potentially asexual if you want to. That's the fun thing about head canons!
Rasavenger Featured By Owner Edited Sep 16, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh my freakin gosh! Haven't you people ever heard of bisexuality or pansexuality?!?!
And about Kuzco: Just because he is nit-picking about appearances and occassionally dresses in drag, doesn't mean he's gay. For almost every other male character, he is absolutely against physical contact. For the ladies, however, he would hit on any pretty ones on sight, especially Malina, who he describes as "HOTTIE HOT HOTTIE" the ENTIRE series! And the series was hillarious as hell!
thedarklordkeisha Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2015
Considering I'm pansexual, yes, I have heard of it. In hindsight, I really should have called this "Ambiguously Queer" rather than ambiguously gay (I did write this nearly five years ago), but my reasons for the choices still stand.
Zoethezany101 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
THANK YOU. And wait, Timones actor is gay? Live and learn.
Roseturquoise Featured By Owner May 11, 2015
No dude, Djali didn't reciprocate in the end. I saw the film. I saw it. Llama Emoji-09 (Drinking Tea) [V1]
Maybe you talked about the novel but I think if I had read a love story between a rock and goat, I would have remembered it for a long time. ^^
Or maybe I just don't understand the meaning of "reciprocate", but I'm pretty sure you meant "return love" Llama Emoji-50 (Whistling) [V3] 
Yaoipigglet Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2015  Student Writer
My dear girl!
As i right to you,, i am now calming down from my fit of laughter!
YOu have made me laugehd my ass off as well as your brother's words. I bow and worship to you my dear lady of the word. THANK YOU!
BenJJedi Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2015
Very interesting list, if I do say so myself. 
Just, wow this is great. Was rewatching the Jungle book the other day with my family. Had the sudden thought of "Bagheera and Baloo, cute married couple?" My brain simultaneously screamed yes and no; yes because that is adoralbe and amazing and ajfhfjfdjdfnvn, no because I really don't need to be shipping anymore ships. Seriously. So anyway after a long time of this going around in my head I just kind of  went "What the heck!!" and hopped on the internet. Super happy to see them (and to be honest the line that made me ship it) in your thing. 
LiloAndStitchPikaxar Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
When lilo and stitch was created gay wasnt a thing é3é
thedarklordkeisha Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2014
I will just go ahead and assume you're kidding.
LiloAndStitchPikaxar Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I am not  On May 17, 2004 same sex in USA is leglized. Also how can an alien from another planet be gay?
Roseturquoise Featured By Owner May 12, 2015
What tells you there's no homosexuals in other planets ? Did you visit them ? Llama Emoji-45 (Smug) [V2] 
IchbindesPreuBen Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Gott, loved Kuzco man xD only saw him once but once was enough <3
PPG-Fan-Girl Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014
Omg this is like, 3 years old. I can't believe I found it. xD
In The Emperor's New School, Kuzco had a crush on a girl...but that show doesn't count because it was stupid and totally sucked! The show ruined the movie...but anyway, I guess Kuzco really IS gay.

I suspected that Timon and Puumba are gay. ;)
HippyGurl6 Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Student Filmographer
This just made everything more interesting. I don't think that I'll be able to ever take off the shipping goggles for anything ever again. Thank you.
Bobi200 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014  Hobbyist
I wont say their gay. Its just a joke they slip in there of guys acting like girls. Pleakley was in particular was hilarious to watch and dressing like a girl was his disguise.
God-like-thing Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
I think you overlook flamboyant characters or characters who have some bromance between them and put the gay label on them. 
From your list, tops - 1 or 2 might be called gay. 
Do you think all males in cartoons should act tough and macho? What would the main character do then? Just as in real life they portray more sensitive personas who act to balance out the main character. Have you not noticed that in real life there are tons of sensitive, colorful people who are not gay at all?
thedarklordkeisha Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
Have you not noticed the word "ambigously" in the title?

Of course I don't think all flamboyant people are gay, and of course I don't think all men should be tough and macho. Sensitive men can be straight, macho men can be gay, and vice versa. That's how real life works, no one is the same. But Disney is fiction, and relies pretty heavily on stereotypes in order to make characters easily recognizable and relateable to the audience. The characters on this list were chosen due to displaying similarities to "coded gay" stereotypes. Disney has an extremely heteronormative slant in its films and the chances of them having a well-written, non stereotypical openly gay person in one of their animated films is, at the moment, basically zero. At the time I wrote this journal, I was researching coded gay characters in old Hollywood films and decided to see if I could find similar traits in Disney characters. Sure enough, I found a ton. If you're unfamiliar with the term, "coded gay" is a method used in Hollywood films to imply to the audience that a character is gay without stating it outright in order to fool the censors. This might be by making a character overly flamboyant, or very touchy-feely with a member of the same sex, or having them subvert gender sterotypes. Coded gay characters have, for the most part, gone by the wayside in recent years- with the exception of children's films. With VERY few exceptions (and really, the only one I can think of is Paranorman), homosexuality is a non-entity in children's media, silenced or censored because of an absolutely ludicrous notion of protecting children's innocence. Therefore, if a writer wants to have a gay character, they have to attribute recognizable stereotypes to him/her in order to get the point across to an older audience. That said, some writers use coded gay traits as a way of creating a sense of "otherness" to a character, hence why so many Disney villains are very foppish. If that was all I was looking for when I made this list, it would have included a lot more bad guys, like Jafar and Scar. But that wasn't my criteria; I was looking for characters who you could, realistically, make a case for as being gay or bi. (I really should have emphasized that these characters could easily be bi as well. And I wish I'd included at least one female character. Hindsight's a bitch.) Were I writing this now, I'd have been a lot clearer about why I made the choices, but I wrote this thing for fun and was not taking it seriously in the slightest. (As evidenced by the constant bad jokes.) I do, however, take homosexual representation in children's media seriously, being queer myself and a supporter of gay rights. As to your "tough and macho" statement, there's plenty of sensitive and colorful straight characters in Disney films. The vast majority of the Disney princes and heroes fill that criteria. As well, I could have easily chosen non-sterotypical Disney characters for this list. To give an example, let's pick Joshua Sweet from "Atlantis: The Lost Empire". He's strong, very masculine, does not show any interest in women, and fits into none of the most well known stereotypes. I could easily say that Sweet is gay; there's no evidence to dispute it. But there's no evidence to prove it either; if I'd included him, no one would have understood why. The characters I chose for this list were ones who you could interpret as queer. Were they intended to be queer in canon? Probably not. But that's the fun of speculation. Is it absolute BS that I have to rely on outdated stereotypes in order to pinpoint ambiguously gay characters in children's films? Of course it is. It is a complete crock of shit. But until we get an openly gay/bi/queer Disney hero, stereotypes are all I have to go on to find some sort of queer presence. And really, the alternative- that all these characters are straight and other forms of sexuality do not exist in the Disney universe- is a far, far bigger load of bullshit. So quite frankly, I'll take what I can get for now.
Dim432 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015   Writer
Mowgli is gay
God-like-thing Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Lo sentimos, no hablo InglÚs.
VanillaDicey Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*Claps intensely for Kuzco and Jumba&Pleakley*
YaoiPhox Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with everything. My personal favorites are Timon and Pumba (they're in the movie I grew up with and have been my favorite pair since I found out it was possible). I'm revisiting Lilo and Stitch now cause I've been craving the Jumba/Pleakley lovin'. That's what lead me to this journal. Love your list.
Chatita98 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
The only one I agree with you on is Hugo from the HOND because it's  confirmed in the Disney Wikipedia. But other than that, no offense I think you're wasting your time on looking so deep into animated characters...iI mean however the character  is portrayed and doing in the movie is what's meant to be 
thedarklordkeisha Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
No offense taken. I don't consider it a waste of time, I have a ton of fun doing speculative analysis on films. Hell, I took an entire course on it in university. Taking different interpretations of characters, plots, and other aspects of media is honestly something a lot of people do. Look at AU fanfiction and headcanons. Or consider the novel "Wide Sargasso Sea"; Jean Rhys read "Jane Eyre" and, instead of focussing on the love story of Jane and Mr Rochester, she was far more fascinated with Bertha, who is simply a madwoman in "Jane Eyre". She reinterpreted the story from Bertha's perspective, in the process showing how easily Mr Rochester could have been seen a villain. What resulted is one of my favourite books.

You're right that the characters on this list aren't officially gay. That's why I said "ambiguously"; they display traits common with "coded gay" characters. Up until almost the late 70s, having gay characters in mainstream films was a no-no, so the only way you could have a character be queer was to have them fall into coded gay stereotypes. Sadly, since there's likely never going to be an openly gay Disney character (even Hugo isn't out, really), those stereotypes are all I have to work with if I want to find any form of queerness in Disney media.

Sorry this ended up as kind of a rant. ^^; I genuinely was not upset by your comment, I just wanted to explain why I didn't consider making this list to be a waste of time. Honestly, it just cracks me up that I made this list for funsies three years ago and it's still getting comments. xD
Chatita98 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
Oh ok haha. If you enjoy it I guess it's kinda cool 😋
thedarklordkeisha Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
HadenXCharm Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2014  Student General Artist
More canon material for flower: The owl during the 'springtime', "It could happen to you, or you, and" *Pauses looking at Flower "It could even happen to you." (Even a gay guy could find love. Lol)
Okamifan Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2014
Can't really comment on most of these because I haven't seen most of them in ages, but after reading that huge thing about Jumby/Pleakley..well..I have no arguements whatsoever. XD
FrancescaROTG Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014
actually he said so because Flower is a skunk, and he isn't well thought of others species
ry67776 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014
You forgot Kodi/Kirby and Kaltag/Star from Balto...they classify as gay
Also, Larry and Craig from Spongebob Squarepants. The big bad wolf from Shrek. Freddy and Peck from Back in the Barnyard. Tantor from the Legend of Tarzan. Vanity from the Smurfs. Huckleberry hound and Snagglepuss from Hanna-Barbara. Leo and Raphael from TMNT and the shows. Pepe Le Pew and Sylvester. 

FYI: In the jungle book. Baloo calls Bagheera by his pet name which is Baggy
thedarklordkeisha Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014
None of those are Disney characters. (Except Tantor, who I don't really feel qualifies.) That's why I didn't include them.
ry67776 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014
Sorry but you did say Ambiguously Gay and I found these animals to be gay plus I just thought that I can add it to your collection

minimoose33 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I hadnt watched lilo and sitch since i was like 8 and i got bored and decided to watch the show. I just happened to watch the episode you mentioned with them almost getting married, and holy crap did my mind blow a fuse or what! I couldnt believe i hadnt noticed before. I felt so retarded. But yes totally agree with ya with most of these.
iguanagrl321 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
On the Cogsworth and Lumiere relationship, you forgot to add that at the end of the mob battle scene Lumiere kisses Cogsworth full on the mouth. This might also be because Lumiere is French and on of the many French greetings is that they kiss each other on each cheek... Oh, well.
sablehaven Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013
Your forgetting that Kuzco dressed in drag in the FIRST movie as well XDD…

And of course, it gets even better when you realize that it was his idea in the first place.
Lycan-Lover-411 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hahaha, I searched for a list like this just to find Flower. That skunk is about as straight as a round about. I know, as you said, he got a woman and had a babby, but god damn the way he meets the lady skunk, that's his gayest scene in the whole film I reckon. And in the 2nd one! Good lord! XD Love both films doe!! :D
KatieRuckerArtwork Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Apparently two male characters who are close friends who happen to have arguments can't actually just be friends. They must be gay. Only gay people have arguments. 

1) Bambi: This movie was made in 1942, when homosexuality was seen as a mental illness, and childrens cartoons were much more innocent in nature. Movies at this time were not riddled with vague perversion like they are today to entertain the adults. Bambi and Flower were also basically toddlers when they met, so they were acting like toddlers. Toddlers can be shy, toddlers aren't necessarily aware of what it "girly" or "boyish", and toddlers aren't going through sexual attraction. 

2) Beauty and the Beast: The prince and everyone in the castle were cursed for over 10 years. That's a long time to be living with people 24/7 that have different personalities than you. Lumiere and Cogsworth are friends, but they have opposite personalities, so of course they're going to bicker sometimes. THEY'RE STUCK IN THE SAME CASTLE. Bickering is not exclusive to gay people and married couples. 

3) The Jungle Book: Baloo is definitely more of a father figure, but Bagheera is definitely more of an uncle figure. Notice how Mowgli calls Baloo "papa bear" but Bagheera is just Bagheera. Mowgli is more attached to Baloo. And once again, bickering is not exclusive to gay people and married couples. 

4) A Bug's Life: The fact that you're stereotyping a character based on his appearance, which he can't control, is just so troubling. Just because Francis looks feminine, doesn't mean he's gay. Just because a guy has a more feminine bone structure, smaller body, clean face, or nice hair does not make him gay. Just because I dress in jeans and t-shirts, and don't do my hair or makeup does not make me a lesbian. Francis can be a nice character, but he's cynical because he's tired of being mistaken for something he's not. I know that feeling. It's frustrating for him. But just because he's cynical does not mean that he can't be a nice guy. And Slim is his friend and basically a business partner. 

5) The Emperor's New Groove: Kuzco is from a different CULTURE. I mean, in his culture he already wears what we would consider a dress, but is actually what men wore at that time in that culture. He's very rich and powerful and opinionated. He holds everything around him to high standards and is never happy with what he has, so it's only natural that none of the women would be good enough for him. Plus, he is still quite young and probably still more interested in having fun with his riches rather than settling down (which is natural for any young man). That doesn't make him gay. And the fact that you think that only a "gay guy" would point out anything to do with a girl's hair only enforces really stupid standards and stereotypes on (straight) men. I've known many straight men to dress in what you would consider "drag" and to not care because they were comfortable in their sexuality. 

6) Pocahontas: Radcliffe is a rich prude raised in high society. That's just the way they were. Wiggins is closer to being gay than any character you have listed, but I'm pretty sure he was just very devoted (ass kissing) to his rich employer than anything. 

7) The Lion King: Timon and Pumbaa were not father figures to Simba. They were typical man friends who taught Simba to do typical man things. They would be closer to drinking buddies if they were human. "he's the odd one out amongst the meerkats, and he only finds happiness when he meets Pumbaa." That does not make him gay. Feeling like you don't belong somewhere does not make you gay. Finding a friend who accepts you as you are does not make you gay. Having a good relationship with someone of the same sex does not make you gay. Believe it or not two guys or two girls can be really close friends without it being sexual. 

8) The Hunchback of Notre Dame: You may have a point there, but I've never seen Hugo as a gay character, just a pig who had a weird fetish for goats. 

9) Lilo & Stitch: I really don't see how you can place a human instinct on alien characters. Jumba finds Pleakley annoying anyway. Pleakley is just an overzealous character who wants to learn more about our earth ways. He's like a child to earth, just beginning to learn what is the correct way for him to act or dress. Plus, I don't think that we should force our binary genders on alien characters, we don't know what they actually are. Pleakley could be an asexual character for all we know, being able to reproduce by him/herself. Just a thought. 

The only one I didn't comment on was The Great Mouse Detective, because I haven't seen it since I was a kid. But my point is that just because a character fits a stereotype does not mean they are actually what you're stereotyping them as. Wow this turned into a really long comment. And you made this journal in 2011, but one of my friend's professors did a lecture based on your journal and they posted a link to it on Facebook. 
Makidotsukashi Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think this list is very well done. And he just put male characters very close to satisfying role within the gay community. He never said that although two men were very close friends have to be gay, if that were the case then Jiminy and Pinocchio, Dumbo and Timothy and Hercules and Phil were there. And they are not, he just put that thought might be gay, and very well researched.

I'm gay, and I agree with almost all the named characters. It might even include a few.

The only with which I disagree is Flower, he's only feminine, also in the end he fall in love for a female skunk.

9) Ratigan: The fact that Ratigan is gay is almost canon. Many critics who have seen the film say that his relationship with Basil, the detective hero, is ex-lovers. This is most obvious in the film as well, "Good Bye, So Soon" is a song that Ratigan sings for Basil when he is about to die, the song is one of those "we ended but I still love you" song. And they based on the Sherlock Holmes/Moriarty relationship.

8) Cogsworth and Lumiere: He said that Lumiere would be in a relationship with Fifi, and honesty, Lumiere looks like a bisexual men. That's very obvious to everyone who has seen this movie. I don't see them as a couple, but I'm glad that many in the fandom has ship them.

7) Baloo and Bagheera: Dude, no matter how Mowgli can look at. Baloo and Bagheera, like Ratigan, many people feel that the relationship is of a couple-uneven. And as our friend said, in various versions has censored the relationship between Baloo and Bagheera, making Bagheera as a female. Even the wiki says that the relationship between them are more than friendship, almost like Mary Poppins and Bert. Even the suspicions between them are confirmed when they start talking at night, where practically, Bagheera asks Baloo if he wanted to marry a panther, then Baloo replied: "Come to think of it, no panther ever asked me!" with a nudge and a wink for Bagheera.

6) I've never seen A Bug's Life, So I can't say anything about them, sorry.

5) Kuzco: Like Flower, Kuzco is just effeminate, and don't consider gay. He is more a queer, a diva, an effeminate boy or whatever you call. But never was in love with another man, so it could not be considered gay.

4) Radcliffe and Wiggins: Even if Wiggins could be considered gay for being attracted Radcliffe, Radcliffe could not be considered gay, again, has some queer tendencies, it is rather ambitious and dreamy, but not gay.

3) Timon and Pumba: Yeah, they are just close friends, but in reality, they do raise Simba as their son. They are very similar to Baloo and Bagheera but without romance. They represent very well the stereotype of gay parents, but also represent two best friends raising a child. It doesn't necessarily have to be gay for that, but the relationship is very cute, would not surprise me if they are confirmed gay or not.

2) Hugo: Admit it, Hugo was spent the entire film lusting the goat, and the goat is a male, in fact this is one of the rare couples I've seen, so I don't have much to say.

1) Pleakley and Jumba: They ARE a gay couple, canon or not canon, they are. Sure, Pleakley is very curious and may initially only used female disguise for fun, but throughout the movies you can tell he already knows that acts as a woman, and doesn't care, still does. His relationship with Jumba is more than companions, even they flirt, but may also be due to the fact that being aliens, they don't care if they are both males.

If I could include a couple, would be Tigger and Rabbit, the two seem to be the typical odd couple that get on their nerves but both care about each other and love each other. Almost all movies and series seem to leave hints of the relationship between Tigger and Rabbit, and there's nothing wrong with they as couple, both seem to like a lot and be faithful.

thedarklordkeisha Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
Wow, I can't believe I never replied to this earlier, sorry. ^^;

You are correct that the characters were put on this list because they fit into stereotypes associated with homosexuality. Sadly, until Disney creates an officially out of the closest homosexual character, coded gay stereotypes are all I have to go on. I did say in the journal title that these are ambiguously gay characters. True, they aren't gay in the actual films, but they possess traits similar to coded gay characters from early Hollywood films, which is why I included them on the list. And you are 100% right that two male characters or two female characters do not have to be gay to be close, and of course bickering is not exclusive to homosexual couples. But there is so little queer representation in children's media that, for those of us who want to see more homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, whateversexual representation in children's media, we have to make do with what we have. And at the moment, all we have are stereotypes and speculation. Does that suck? Of course it does. But we have to make do with that until society allows for more complex, non-stereotypical homosexual characters in children's media who don't have to be coded. On a positive note, thanks to films like "Paranorman", I think we're getting there. I'd actually recommend you check out the series "Needs More Gay" if you haven't already, since Rantasmo is much smarter than I am and is better able to articulate the point I'm trying to make. Here's a link -->…

Reading through your comment, I think you took this journal way more seriously than I ever did. I just made this for fun. xD

And you made this journal in 2011, but one of my friend's professors did a lecture based on your journal and they posted a link to it on Facebook.

Wait, WHAT?? O_o Okay, that professor is clearly completely insane if he thinks my stupid little list is worthy of an academic lecture.
The-Strify Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
That is a long comment.
EarthAngel87 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Thank you! I'm all for more inclusions of LGBTQ characters in all forms of media (being a bisexual woman myself), but that doesn't mean that I think going out of your way to point out supposedly gay qualities in characters, particularly if it has nothing to do with the story, is helpful or productive (for example, I don't really get why creators of shows, movies, books, etc. will reveal that a certain character is gay, if it's never relevant in the narrative). And I agree that it's unfair to assume a male character is gay just because he's feminine. Here's what makes a character (or person) gay: Is he or she attracted sexually/romantically to people of the same sex? Okay, we're done.
thedarklordkeisha Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
And I agree that it's unfair to assume a male character is gay just because he's feminine. Here's what makes a character (or person) gay: Is he or she attracted sexually/romantically to people of the same sex? Okay, we're done.

You're completely right. But as I said in reply to the original comment, the chances of Disney having an openly gay character in one of their films is slim to none, so we have to make do with what we can. Which sadly means interpreting coded gay stereotypes, since that's apparently the only way you can get potentially queer characters into children's media without parents pitching a hissy fit.

(for example, I don't really get why creators of shows, movies, books, etc. will reveal that a certain character is gay, if it's never relevant in the narrative)

A character's sexuality may not be relevant to the narrative, but it may be relevant to their character and give you some further insight into why they made certain decisions or behave in a certain manner. If it's not that, is usually for the sake of diversity and representation, because sadly, the typical thought process for content creators and audiences seems to be that, if homosexuality is not upfront and on display, it does not exist in the film/book/tv show/etc's world. If a character you created is gay in your mind, but you have no way to make this relevant to the narrative, it will be assumed that the character is straight until you say otherwise. Which sucks, yes, but that's the way things are right now.
Lycan-Lover-411 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Dude, chill.....
KatieRuckerArtwork Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014  Student General Artist
I never saw your comment for some reason, but maybe you should be the one to chill since the comment is not even in your journal? 
Ravensmoon666 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
The only two I agree on are Hugo, and jumba and pleakly. I actually was searching for are they gay when I found this. I was watching Leroy and stitch when basically pleakly calls jumba asking him if he can come over as "aunty pleakly" saying he's even wearing the wig "That Jumba likes" but basically on all the other ones I agree with Katie.
Halofollower064 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Student General Artist
Hmm interesting told debate teach we shld debate bout disneys curroptionz and well yeah thissl help! Thnks!
IsangsimaronBatis Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do agree with your list that Hugo's pretty much canon, because of Djali. 

It surprises me how often Jafar avoids being put on these lists.
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